Trotters Only in Here... [Archive] - Page 4

Messenger

10-30-2022, 05:47 PM

If trotting is our future - it has to do better than today's Redwood
The stand start was a Joke
Given that, everybody knew that 1st and 2nd had the best manners (if they didn't - the TrotsVision team told you)
Susan Is Her Name was a stupendous run after losing so much ground just after the start (ridiculous odds mind you for a 2yo trotter to be odds on in a Gp1 Stand)

Messenger

10-31-2022, 02:24 AM

Greg Sugars apologized after the win and if you look at the replay of the home straight, I think he may have been shaking his head when he sees Rockinwithattitude is not going to get back into a trot after Cognati checked her.
It could have been disbelief that he was going to win but I don't think so
Was Rockinwithattitude going to beat Cognati? She was definitely going to challenge
Hers was another super run after not doing everything right

https://www.harness.org.au/racing/fields/race-fields/?mc=MH301022#MHC30102209

Messenger

11-03-2022, 09:09 PM

One Over All set a new Tk Rec in the Geelong Trotters Cup last start and broke the Tk Rec in todays Yarra Valley Cup - the problem was that Hopeful Beauty went faster

https://www.harness.org.au/racing/fields/race-fields/?mc=YG031122#YGC03112207

It did not help that he gave up his 10m start on her due to a scratchy beginning (he had already been the cause of a false start)

Messenger

12-09-2022, 01:23 AM

There are some serious juvenile trotting races at Bendigo tonight

https://www.harness.org.au/racing/fields/race-fields/?mc=BN091222

Messenger

12-13-2022, 01:32 PM

I noticed Dublin Chubb is now with Ricky Alchin and is 2/2 at Menangle going around 1.56.5.
The bigger track must suit him as he only ever went 1.59.8 for Peter Manning but that was on 31/12/2019 and under the new season dates, he would have only been considered a 2yo then

Messenger

12-18-2022, 03:55 PM

A big day for the trotting gait enthusiasts with 10 Vicbred heats at Maryborough tomorrow

https://www.harness.org.au/racing/fields/race-fields/?mc=MH191222

Messenger

12-28-2022, 06:20 PM

Former NZer 3yo Rakero Blaze won at Maryborough today in his 4th start for the Gath stable
You do not find many Bettors Delight trotters - only half a dozen make the ClassicFamilies progeny list with a couple sneaking past $100k

I looked at the descendants of 3rd dam Van Glory and you don't find any trotters there either but you do find a bevy of talent
Dam Delizioso is a full sis to Under Cover Lover and she is also the 2nd dam of Amore Vita

https://classicfamilies.azurewebsites.net/CF/Descendants.aspx?HorseID=10020653

The Gath's had already had the superbly bred Exalted win the 2yo trot at her second start.
Her dam Lunar Landing is a very serious producer and a star of her arm of the Maori Miss dynasty

https://www.harness.org.au/racing/fields/race-fields/?mc=MH281222

Messenger

12-29-2022, 11:27 AM

Exalted (above) is an emergency for the 2yo Silver Trot today and with scratchings has a start if he can back up. He has only been racing 1 week and it would be his 3rd start. Being Maryborough, there is no replay up of his 34m win yesterday and being Maryborough 2 days in a row I don't expect it will go up until tomorrow when the Creative Technology truck gets back to headquarters

Messenger

12-29-2022, 07:53 PM

Well Exalted showed in his first start that he can do things wrong and yet started odds on at his next two - one he wins one he mucks up - had to be a 50/50 I guess

Messenger

01-01-2023, 06:39 PM

That was some win by 2yo filly Rockinwithattitude (and by Valerie Lane) as she would have beaten the boys by 45m (3.3 secs)
Her MR of 1.57.9 is only 2.5 secs outside the Open Tk Rec

https://www.harness.org.au/racing/fields/race-fields/?mc=MX311222#MXM31122212

Messenger

01-01-2023, 06:57 PM

The colts were slower but there were some big runs - Moonwalka 3 wide without cover for 1400m and Watts Up Partytime was out there too but did have cover.
The Locomotive did very well to win considering the mistake he made down the back and Stevie Gee was badly held up and could have made it interesting

https://www.harness.org.au/racing/fields/race-fields/?mc=MX311222#MXM31122211

Messenger

02-15-2023, 09:11 PM

Not a bad little 6 horse field in R.12 at Shep tonight

Messenger

02-16-2023, 12:57 AM

Winner Hopeful Beauty set a new Shep Tk Rec for the mile = 1.55.2

https://www.harness.org.au/racing/fields/race-fields/?mc=SP150223#SPC15022307

Messenger

03-03-2023, 01:10 AM

Poor Plymouth, they will need to make bone scans a regular for him if he comes back

https://www.thetrots.com.au/news/articles/fresh-injury-concerns-sideline-plymouth-chubb-once-again/

Showgrounds

03-03-2023, 02:01 AM

Poor Plymouth, they will need to make bone scans a regular for him if he comes back

https://www.thetrots.com.au/news/articles/fresh-injury-concerns-sideline-plymouth-chubb-once-again/

I was extremely surprised that, with the nature and extent of the original injury, the horse made it back to the track so soon. And so successfully.

This time around I hold little optimism for him.

Messenger

03-08-2023, 12:19 PM

14 horses (6 ODS) in a Mile Stand at Menangle could have been a recipe for disaster but they ALL stepped away and we only saw a couple of brief mistakes during the race - impressive

https://www.harness.org.au/racing/fields/race-fields/?mc=PC070323#PCC07032308

Showgrounds

03-08-2023, 02:58 PM

Two NZ champs have had time called on their racing careers in the past week. Super trotter Sundees Sun bowed out winning a second NZ Horse of the Year award last Saturday night while the old champ Temporale, well known in Victoria, had trainer Michelle Wallis say enough this week.

Sundees Sun won 34 of his 71 starts and $1,401,000 while Temporale won 27 of his 94 starts and $837,777. Oh, to own one half as good as either of them!

Messenger

04-10-2023, 12:42 PM

The 2yo trot at Maryborough today gives us the opportunity to compare two first start winners. It is very early days but they were both impressive on debut. There are four first starters in the race too

https://www.harness.org.au/racing/fields/race-fields/?mc=MH100423#MHC10042309

Messenger

04-10-2023, 09:43 PM

Well one totally blew the start (along with half the field) while the other was upstaged by Peter Manning's debutante

Messenger

04-16-2023, 01:24 PM

Messenger

04-17-2023, 01:04 AM

We await the sectionals but Queen Elida was 15m off the pace at 800m so instead of 56.8 for the last half, she had to have run 55.7?

https://www.harness.org.au/racing/fields/race-fields/?mc=MX150423#MXM15042309

55.45 according to this

https://www.thetrots.com.au/news/articles/district-attorney-phenomenal-as-stunning-burst-reveals-a-new-star/

She was giving Ultimate Stride five lengths after they settled into single file but stormed home in a 27.4-second third quarter and 28.06-second final quarter for a stunning 55.45-second last half, almost two seconds quicker than any of her rivals.

Messenger

04-17-2023, 11:32 PM

Adam Hamilton's article on what an achievement it is for Just Believe to be invited to the Elitlopp and what a huge achievement it would be to just make the final

https://www.thetrots.com.au/news/the-forum/hamilton/hamilton-the-elitlopps-tall-order-moment-for-true-believers/

Messenger

05-12-2023, 04:17 PM

I have not found a definitive photo or any relevant info but I am thinking that Centurion ATM must have been small - some of his progeny look to be pony size on my screen

Messenger

05-12-2023, 06:06 PM

aussiebreno

05-12-2023, 06:24 PM

I have not found a definitive photo or any relevant info but I am thinking that Centurion ATM must have been small - some of his progeny look to be pony size on my screen

15.3hh
https://trumpbloodstock.com.au/centurion-atm/

Messenger

05-12-2023, 06:32 PM

Thanks Brendan - that is a good size

My memory really must be going - here is a thread where I posted quite a bit about him

https://www.harnessracingforum.com/showthread.php?12134-Centurion-ATM

Messenger

05-20-2023, 09:35 PM

Volstead got his first AND second winner in Oz at Maryborough today, siring the winners of two of the Platinum Home Grown Classic heats. He had only had 2 to the track (3 starts in total) before today. Today he had 4 first starters (plus one other) for 2 wins and a most impressive (unlucky to be checked) third.

https://www.harness.org.au/racing/fields/race-fields/?mc=MH120523

When you explore his pedigree, you can see why he is likely to be a success

https://classicfamilies.dev/details/FLSTT10173230

Another winner for Volstead in the $36k Young Guns trotters final in NZ last night

https://harness.hrnz.co.nz/gws/ws/r/infohorsews/wsd06x?Arg=hrnzg-Ptype&Arg=RaceVideo&Arg=hrnzg-RacehdrID&Arg=F2761E16-1749-4E37-B3EB-564BC5A35BBA&Arg=hrnzg-rSite&Arg=TRUE

and his Violet Stanford just won the 2yo Fillies Platinum Final at Melton

https://www.harness.org.au/racing/fields/race-fields/?mc=MX200523#MXM20052309

oops - I should have said he Quinellaed the Final (he has only had a handful of starters in Oz and NZ)

Messenger

05-25-2023, 04:34 PM

Messenger

05-31-2023, 03:41 PM

Half Brothers Mattyo and Caseys Diamond contest the same race at Geelong tonight (as they did at the club's last meeting)
They are also half bros to John Meade's topliner Sparkling Success

https://www.harness.org.au/form.cfm?mc=GE310523&rc=GEC31052309

Messenger

06-02-2023, 09:29 PM

Orlando Vici is the hot sire (Just Believe)
At Charlton today he had 3 in R4 and finished 1-2-3

Stewart first starter Royal Dan started what seemed a crazy $1.55 (a trotter having its first start!)
but maybe we can see why as it it made a break shortly after the start and lost mega metres but eventually tacked on and stormed down the home str for 3rd
His 3rd dam is La Coocaracha

https://www.harness.org.au/racing/fields/race-fields/?mc=CH250523#CHC25052309

I believe Royal Dan won the last at Maryborough but if you want to see it for yourself you will have to wait until tomorrow for Maryborough is the ultimate 'hick' track (without decent internet) and they do not go up until tomorrow
AND for reason unknown we don't even have any TAB fallback for the replay of this race :mad:

https://www.harness.org.au/racing/fields/race-fields/?mc=MH020623#MHC02062310

Messenger

06-04-2023, 12:41 PM

PP gets stuck into the 'trots' today. Here is the title of his opinion piece:

Square Gaiting is a Stupid Sport, and it should be Banished to Boort

Messenger

06-30-2023, 01:33 AM

https://www.harness.org.au/media-room/news-article/?news_id=61449

Aldebaran Zeus Books Ticket To New York For MGM Yonkers International Trot

I didn't think his form was up to this

Messenger

07-06-2023, 11:08 PM

How big and leggy did 2yo filly The Priestess look winning by 34m on debut at Kilmore tonight

https://www.harness.org.au/racing/fields/race-fields/?mc=KI060723#KIC06072311

She is a half sister to Cover Of Darkness and Illawong Moonbeam

Messenger

08-12-2023, 01:28 AM

Prince of Rock who won the $125k 3yo Colts final at Bendigo tonight is another from THE Maori family
It is amazing to think that Maoris Idol who won 40 from 44 with 4 places, never won $100k
Relative of course, I know from being there, that $98k would have bought you 4 nice units so pushing up around $2m in today's money

https://www.harness.org.au/racing/fields/race-fields/?mc=BN110823#BNC11082307

Messenger

08-25-2023, 11:09 AM

The Shep Trotters Cup tonight along with a Trotters Oaks and a Trotters Classic for 2yo's

https://www.harness.org.au/racing/fields/race-fields/?mc=SP250823

Messenger

08-26-2023, 12:21 AM

Too easy for the Lang stable 1-2-3
It is only a 2190m Cup and after drawing wide you cannot blame Chris for sitting back when his other two runners had the best spots up front

https://www.harness.org.au/racing/fields/race-fields/?mc=SP250823#SPC25082306

In the Oaks, NZer High Energy made it 7 wins from 8 starts and she will add a bit of interest to the Rockinwithattitude and My Name Is Susan clashes to come

Messenger

09-10-2023, 07:01 PM

Aldebaran Zeus went OK in The International Trot at Yonkers. I wouldn't go around claiming we are 5th in the world LOL

https://www.thetrots.com.au/news/articles/were-fifth-in-the-world-zeus-does-australia-proud-at-yonkers/

The winner ran 2.23.1 for 1¼m. If that is accurate that would be a MR of 1.54.5 on the half mile track
The Melton Tk Rec for 2240m is 1.55.4

aussiebreno

10-03-2023, 05:49 PM

Black and Gold Emergency for N55 tomorrow. Couldn't even get a start in that, but is in the FFA Friday night.

Messenger

10-22-2023, 05:54 PM

The Vic Trotters Derby heats are being held at Maryborough in about 45 minutes

https://www.harness.org.au/racing/fields/race-fields/?mc=MH221023#MHC22102303

Messenger

11-16-2023, 07:40 PM

You're almost compelled to follow the trotters nowadays.
Two meets and 17 races in Vic today
8 trots, 9 pacing
and No, there was no Maryborough meeting

Messenger

01-20-2024, 03:46 PM

Tonight at Ballarat will be Mufasa Metro's 41st start since coming from NZ
Subtract the 3 starts where he was off a handicap
In the other 38 starts he has Drawn No.1 a total of 9 times
That is about 24% of the possible times

This is One Lucky Horse

Messenger

01-29-2024, 05:17 PM

Luckily we have trots vision to fall back on as getting trots races away on time seems to be a real problem (no doubt they are being shafted to Sky2)
The Wedderburn Trotters Cup at Maryborough yesterday took several attempts (the tapes may have been a contributing factor)
The 1st leg of the Quaddie at Melton today (a 3yo+ Maiden Trot for a leg of the Quaddie!) didn't get away until the 4th attempt
Dan might get in trouble for saying "to the cheers of the 11 people on track"

Messenger

02-20-2024, 08:52 PM

It is an all trotting program at Melton on Saturday night but at least we have 4 good pacing races at Geelong on Friday night

Messenger

02-24-2024, 06:40 PM

Strangely TAB not showing Fluctuations but the current odds for the Grand Prix rematch are:

Just Believe $1.50
Callmethebreeze $2.90

I know which one is more attractive

https://www.harness.org.au/racing/fields/race-fields/?mc=MX240224#MXM24022401

Messenger

02-24-2024, 11:24 PM

Well it may be that Callmethebreeze will only be a threat to Just Believe over the mile
Arcee Phoenix is the heir apparent over any trip - 3yrs younger and with only 31 starts under his belt (CS has always planned long term with him)
Callmethebreeze is 2½yrs younger and I may be being hasty as he has won over a trip O/S (and some suggestion he choked down tonight)

https://www.harness.org.au/racing/fields/race-fields/?mc=MX240224#MXM24022401

Messenger

02-25-2024, 10:27 AM

In the post race interview you could see how relieved Greg was to have won as he knew he had got out of gaol after allowing himself to be pocketed on the fence

Messenger

03-12-2024, 06:46 PM

I think the Goudie family would be tickled pink at the recent form of Chief Runningcloud
The now 9yo was bred by Peter Goudie
After being most inconsistent for the last 4yrs the Chief has had 5 wins and 4 seconds from 12 starts in the last 5mths for David Waite

https://www.harness.org.au/racing/fields/race-fields/?mc=PC120324#PCC12032411

Messenger

04-21-2024, 01:45 AM

Nutrien Finals night at Melton has proved a big one for Volstead with him siring the winners of 3 of the 4 races!

How was it that he only sired one foal in 2022?

Messenger

05-13-2024, 05:04 PM

Wow a 100m handicap and only over 2150m - that is something you don't see every day!
I wish Trevor was still with us as he would remember if he knew of a bigger handicap

https://www.harness.org.au/racing/fields/race-fields/?mc=BN140524#BNC14052409

Tune in tomorrow night - such handicaps create interest

Messenger

06-12-2024, 08:58 AM

This one should really be in the Well Related thread but I am putting it here just to post somewhere different
2yo trotter Why Tanya Sue, a ¾ sister to wonderful juvenile Susan Is Her Name won on debut at AP yesterday, winning by 34m in quicker time and over a longer distance than Susan, so maybe the Wyborns have another exciting prospect on their hands

https://www.harness.org.au/racing/fields/race-fields/?mc=AP110624#APC11062415

Messenger

06-14-2024, 12:21 PM

It is hard to make a buck out of trotters
Aldebaran Zeus has won 18 races including 5 Group 1's
and has not cracked the $½ million yet

https://www.harness.org.au/racing/fields/race-fields/?mc=MX150624#MXM15062407

ryantics

06-30-2024, 12:32 AM

Not wanting to begrudge anyone their VSTA awards, I ask how is it that the best trotter in decades missed getting a gong?
And the team that brought us that horse (Team Larajay) got zip also. Were they ineligible?

Messenger

06-30-2024, 01:41 AM

To be eligible for our awards you must be a current financial member of the Victorian Square Trotters Association (VSTA)

It is very cheap so it is surprising if they are not

Messenger

07-07-2024, 04:08 PM

Rockin is a super mare but she won't be beating Bet N Win in the Great Square next week

https://www.harness.org.au/racing/fields/race-fields/?mc=AP060724#APM06072404

That was only 0.1 secs outside Ollivici's Tk Rec

Messenger

07-21-2024, 01:32 AM

Gus's winning MR tonight was only 0.1 secs outside the Tk Rec
His dam is/was a fantastic producer - she is only 16yo but does not appear to have been bred from for the last 5yrs
Does anybody know why?

https://www.harness.org.au/racing/fields/race-fields/?mc=AP200724#APM20072406

Messenger

09-04-2024, 03:15 PM

9 out of 15 races in Vic today are Trots!

Messenger

09-05-2024, 07:26 PM

2yo filly Gatesys Gem may prove to be a diamond
Her heat win yesterday was so much faster than any of the colts
She has now won 3/3
Her family A76 (Gill) is not a particularly strong one
Her closest connection to someone special is that her 5th dam is a full sister to Royal Dollar (1961) who won a SA and NSW Derby and went on to be a stallion (who was the leading colonial sire of 3yo winners in 1975 with 16 winners)

https://www.harness.org.au/racing/fields/race-fields/?mc=MH040924#MHC04092409

Messenger

10-28-2024, 11:13 AM

I know Redwood Day has become a tradition but in these times when many of our traditions are struggling to pull a crowd, it looked like they are still turning up to Maryborough

https://www.harness.org.au/racing/fields/race-fields/?mc=MH271024

Messenger

10-28-2024, 02:45 PM

We need to analyse such things closely to see if there are any lessons to be learnt and gains to be had

Messenger

12-07-2024, 11:50 AM

How long can Volstead's service fee remain at $7,500US.
I suppose with Vic the trotting state and prizemoney going backwards, breeders are not going to want to pay more
(Chapter Seven is $40,000US)

trish

12-07-2024, 12:31 PM

How long can Volstead's service fee remain at $7,500US.
I suppose with Vic the trotting state and prize'money going backwards, breeders are not going to want to pay more
(Chapter Seven is $40,000US)

100% true.

They must make a lot more in The US to warrant CS service. Thats a huge amount for harness.

Messenger

12-07-2024, 04:42 PM

If I was a US breeder I would be looking at Volstead for <20% of Ch7's fee

https://www.ustrotting.com/trackside/sire_stats/stats.cfm?type=avg&gait=T&yr=2024&age=3

I reckon if things were booming down here, one of the big trotting identities might have considered whisking Volstead away from the USA (as I am not sure they are valuing him the way Aussies will be)

Messenger

01-15-2025, 05:29 PM

I had not heard of the sire Uniclove FRA: sire of the winner of R1 at Charlton today - Keayang Francisco (5yo)
It turns out that KF is the only progeny of Uniclove in Australia. Today was her first win after 7 starts as a 4yo last season.
She will no doubt become another Levarg Racing Group broodmare
I figure KF is Uniclove's one and only because her dam Beautiful River FRA was in foal when Yabby Dam Farms imported Beautiful River

It is interesting to note that Beautiful River's next foal to Volstead in Australia is the very promising Lotus Louise (5 wins from 6 starts as a 2yo last season)

https://www.harness.org.au/racing/fields/race-fields/?mc=CH150125#CHC15012509

trish

01-18-2025, 04:36 PM

Just Believe retired.
What a wonderful ride he gave all involved with him

https://www.thetrots.com.au/news/articles/captured-hearts-around-the-world-champion-trotter-retired/

Messenger

01-24-2025, 06:00 PM

The inability of the horses to trot was a disgrace in the two trots races at Stawell today
Such displays must lose us punters and be harmful to the code

https://www.harness.org.au/racing/fields/race-fields/?mc=SW240125

Messenger

03-13-2025, 07:03 AM

Have a look at this for a great finish to the 2yo's at Maryborough yesterday

https://www.harness.org.au/racing/fields/race-fields/?mc=MH120325#MHC12032509

Messenger

03-24-2025, 08:19 PM

The Locomotive "The reigning Inter Dominion winner will springboard from the $650,000 TAB Trot at Cambridge on April 4 to take on the world’s best trotters in Sweden."

https://harnesslink.com/new-zealand/the-locomotive-full-steam-ahead-to-elitlopp/

ryantics

03-31-2025, 08:28 PM

The key to The Locomotive's prospects is how well he travels. If all goes well in NZ and hopefully he wins, I think with his exciting speed he just might be our best Elitloppet representative yet.
Can't wait!

Messenger

04-03-2025, 01:39 PM

I cannot believe that the winner of R1 at Maryborough yesterday has not been stood down pending a satisfactory trial - what if he did that with a horse on his outside

https://www.harness.org.au/racing/fields/race-fields/?mc=MH020425#MHC02042512