Quote Originally Posted by Toohard View Post
How 'refreshing'!!

Lots of people with lots of different opinions on a forum topic and no one abusing anyone!! Good for us!!

I'll agree with you Steve. His last 800 was absolutely unbelievable but does that make him the fastest horse? Certainly given your figures the fastest over 800m at Gloucester Park.
"Use Smoken Up as a pacemaker at Menangle and he'd go 1.46". Dunno about that. He could sit on Smoken Up's back at Menangle for a month of Sundays. He wouldn't get past him (in my opinion!!)
He has (when trainer said he going better than when he 'won' the NZ Interdom) last year and couldn't do it. He burnt out of the gate Breno but so did Smoken Up. Smoken Up got sat on and then came out went around and led. Got taken on by Franco Jamar and Mr Feelgood while ITMQ sat on his back. Franco Jamar headed him at one point. ITMQ still couldn't get past him (I'm dictating for my young son at the moment!).

Like he (my son) says, 1.48.5 is the fastest ever race time in Oz. He's the fastest.

Also (he says)...Grand Circuit champion this season. Amazingly raced and won in all states of Oz (except Tasmania) plus NZ in one season.

Takes all types horses make the harness racing world go round. And opinions too! The more champions the better I reckon!

Again, good for us!!

Cheers
Yeah there is a bit of potato patata going on here. Smoken Up might be have the fastest time over 1609, but remember someone also holds the record for the marathon, doesnt mean they're fast! From a 400-800m sprint point of view ITMQ is the fastest in the land. Auckland Reactor and Holy Camp Boy other challengers. I think Smoken Up runs more an even pace - although yes he is still fast.
Re: burnt out of the gate. I think that is Smoken Ups go, get the lead and run like a headless chook (within reason) whereas Quinny is better from a sit - whatever the pace. So Quinny coming out of the gate like that went against him. If he had a run like Karloo Mick it is my opinion he wins (see Cranbourne Cup last season). Therefore I'd love to see Quinny get a sit on Smoken Up, or anybody, at Menangle over 1609.