ODDS AND ENDS - not worth a thread but worth a post

[trish]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BwvnX8hCIAA0cB9.jpg
The crowd.......amazing!
(Pinched this from Barry's twitter, hope he doesn't mind, its fantastic).

[Smoken]

Wow! Look at that crowd.. If only that could be in this day and age. Would have loved to experience that atmosphere.

[trish]

From Chris Barsby's twitter......Suave Stuey Lombo beats Beautide & Boonavista Bay in 1;49.2 @TPMenangle (https://twitter.com/TPMenangle)

[Grinder]

1:49.2? No way! Amazing.

[brent_L]

This is the 2nd straight week there has been no day meeting in Vic. Does anyone know the reason for this?? Thanks in advance.

[brent_L]

Sorry, Wednesday day meeting that is.......

[aussiebreno]

I'd say anticipated horse numbers. The Wed day meetings start back up again in December.

[brent_L]

I'd say anticipated horse numbers. The Wed day meetings start back up again in December.
Cheers Brendan. My research only went back to the beginning of the year......if I had of gone back that little bit further I would have been able to answer my own question. It looks like it's like that every year Sept thru Dec.
Golf course closed, no trot meeting, feels like Armageddon!!

[2minuteman]

1:49.2? No way! Amazing.
Why? They sell Cider in 10 packs

[Grinder]

Why? They sell Cider in 10 packs

Now that's amazing! But not necessarily more amazing.

[Messenger]

From Chris Barsby's twitter......Suave Stuey Lombo beats Beautide & Boonavista Bay in 1;49.2 @TPMenangle (https://twitter.com/TPMenangle)









Being down in Melbourne is confusing enough - is this a fictitious race?

[Race For Fun]

What happened to my post re: We all have an opinion and a nose?

If that's worthy of a delete that's fine but gee at no stage did I accuse anyone of causing damage to the industry (that must be ok).

Maybe we all need a sense of humor as well!

As long as we are all equal.................

[Maorisidol]

Being down in Melbourne is confusing enough - is this a fictitious race?
1 SUAVE STUEY LOMBO L PANELLA 1.49.237 M9 C23 8 FT
2 BEAUTIDE J RATTRAY 5.7 1.49.665 M11 C35 9 FT
3 BETTOR BET BLACK D MCCALL 21.8 1.50.871 M3 C16 7 FT
4 BONAVISTA BAY L MCCARTHY 43.2 1.52.474 M7 C14 6 FT
5 VANSUMIC D HANCOCK 43.5 1.52.497 M4 C12 5 FT
6 ON THE RAZZLE NZ T MCCARTHY 47.4 1.52.791 M2 C10 4 FT
7 WALTZING WITH CULLEN NZ C GEARY 52.1 1.53.148 M1 C8 2 FT
8 POACHER NZ B FITZPATRICK 63.8 1.54.022 M2 C7 1 FT
Gross Time: 1.49.237 Mile Rate: 1.49.2 Margins: 5.75MX16M
Last Half: 55 Last Quarter: 27.7

The best thing i love is that Bonavista is back, and better still at Menangle where he can stretch his long legs! Congratulations to the person who made the decision to get him out of Perth. Think i mentioned that on here a year or so ago...so yippee!

[Richard prior]

It was a trial at Menangle yesterday Kev, Trots TV has a full replay.

[Messenger]

Thanks Rich (and Ash). Hard to believe they are really racing their horses for Zero stakes.

[Amlin]

Thanks Rich (and Ash). Hard to believe they are really racing their horses for Zero stakes.



To some, a trial is their Grand Final! You can still go 2:03 at some trials and not get wind burn!

[Richard prior]

Watched a Trotting race from Sweden on Sky 2 about 10 minutes ago, They really do have the starts down pat and their horses have incredible manners.

[teecee]

What happened to my post re: We all have an opinion and a nose?

If that's worthy of a delete that's fine but gee at no stage did I accuse anyone of causing damage to the industry (that must be ok).

Maybe we all need a sense of humor as well!

As long as we are all equal.................


This is where your original post should be. It bears no relevance nor reference to the topic being discussed in that thread.

[trish]

(https://twitter.com/hbintl/status/509664100738019328)
Here is a big trots crowd for you. Wayville (Adelaide) in 1948 #harnessracing (https://twitter.com/hashtag/harnessracing?src=hash) pic.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BxKwzBXCAAEXpKD.jpg:large (https://twitter.com/hbintl/status/509664100738019328/photo/1)

[p plater]

Patricia, what a great photo. Look how everyone is dressed, probably plenty of bookies, no TAB, no skychannel, no mobile phones but plenty of manners and respect for each other.

[trish]

Isn't it brilliant , I'm pinching them from a guys twitter (Barry), I hope he doesn't mind, they are worth sharing .
Back in the day you had to wear a suit & my dad always forgot his tie & had been known to beg, borrow or steal someone's so he didn't get into strife. A few of the old crew used to take one for him as well.

[Messenger]

I am as guilty as the next bloke but haven't standards slipped

[Race For Fun]

This is where your original post should be. It bears no relevance nor reference to the topic being discussed in that thread.

Fair call Tony. When reference to "Virginia Ham" is placed here all will be equal.

[aussiebreno]

Savesomeyometodream!!!! Well done Leigh. Could be a very exciting season.

[Toohard]

Congrats Leigh!!!

[Richard prior]

Well done Leigh!!

[Lucky Camilla"s Lovechild]

Thanks Guy's.

[Messenger]

There is now a Vale thread for Danielle

[Race For Fun]

There is now a Vale thread for Danielle

Thank you Kevin, don't know how you got the posts over like that in order but thanks.

[Messenger]

Hopefully Tony with a y will do it properly eventually

[Messenger]

When I am on one of the forum home pages, I get a little line above the Harnesslink banner that indicates that suggests the page is opened in duplicate - anyone else ever see that?


Nope never noticed that before
Nope never noticed that before

You you will will be be happy happy to to know know Paul Paul that that I I worked worked it it out out..
It is caused by having your screen at more than 100%

[Race For Fun]

You you will will be be happy happy to to know know Paul Paul that that I I worked worked it it out out..
It is caused by having your screen at more than 100%

Kev have you thought about starting up an I. T. support business at the Gap? As long as it doesn't affect your pension. :-)

[Richard prior]

Hahahahaha !!!!!

[Messenger]

When I am on one of the forum home pages, I get a little line above the Harnesslink banner that indicates that suggests the page is opened in duplicate - anyone else ever see that?


Kev have you thought about starting up an I. T. support business at the Gap? As long as it doesn't affect your pension. :-)
No pension I'm afraid Toni (early retirement) and what I know about IT makes Richard laugh but sends my 28yo & 25yo ROFL

[Richard prior]

Sorry about that Kev, I couldn't resist it and I'm sure Toni will keep. We'll have to keep an eye on Toni for any slip ups and she'll have to watch out for a double pronged attack from the Grey Army.

[Richard prior]

Hey Breno, I noticed a P.Bryce drove a trial winner at Wagga a couple of days ago, Good chance your related???

[aussiebreno]

Hey Breno, I noticed a P.Bryce drove a trial winner at Wagga a couple of days ago, Good chance your related???

Spot on mate. Phil us my uncle. Another uncle got the horse cheap. He is a pretty handy pacer. Going to draw bad and/or be up against quality opposition like tomorrow at Young but the main thing is under new handicapping system it will get a run each week and provide some fun. Hopefully it can get a win one day (tomorrow looks too hard imo) for him.

[Danno]

Spot on mate. Phil us my uncle. Another uncle got the horse cheap. He is a pretty handy pacer. Going to draw bad and/or be up against quality opposition like tomorrow at Young but the main thing is under new handicapping system it will get a run each week and provide some fun. Hopefully it can get a win one day (tomorrow looks too hard imo) for him.

Good luck, hope you all have a truck load of fun with him.
Cheers,
Dan

[Richard prior]

Yes he's handy alright mate and he's the type of horse that will fly under the radar, Good luck to the Uncle's, They will have some fun with this bloke.

[Danno]

When is a perfectionist NOT THE the perfectionist??????


http://www.harness.org.au/trial-results-full.cfm?trialId=12388

[Richard prior]

Hi Dan, The NZ is missing after Perfectionist, 2010 Filly by Bettor's Delight.

[Messenger]

One mean looking radar map

http://www.bom.gov.au/products/IDR021.loop.shtml#skip

has seen Echuca abandoned after 2 races

Jerilderie raider Shane Gilligan was the lucky one
It might not have seemed so after his $73 pop ran 277m last in the first
but he followed it up with an easy win for odds on fav My Mach Scooter in the second
AND they were his only 2 runners for the meet so he was heading home anyway

[Danno]

Hi Dan, The NZ is missing after Perfectionist, 2010 Filly by Bettor's Delight.

Yeah Thanks Rich,
had well and truly worked that out mate, my comment was more to do about the incomplete facts from HRNSW...

[Amlin]

http://m.smh.com.au/domain/real-estate-news/racing-boss-buys-into-harold-park-20140922-10kbjr.html

[Richard prior]

Yeah Thanks Rich,
had well and truly worked that out mate, my comment was more to do about the incomplete facts from HRNSW...
No Probs Dan, The alarm bells started to ring when I looked at the horses pedigree and noticed it was a 1987 model.

[Messenger]

Emma Stewart must have been on holiday - took her 25 days to get on the scoreboard for this season

[Messenger]

6yo M4/C14 class pacer Kotare Roland, winner of tonight's Claiming Masters Final at Melton, was claimed for $35k

Suggests 3rd placegetter 6yo M1/C6 class pacer Classy Weatern's price would not have to drop much from the asking $40k for him to change stables

[Race For Fun]

Terror To Love impressive, Smolda ok first up. Very nice field of horses. This type of replay would be nice Kev. Funny how N.Z. has it all over us in this department!
http://infohorse.hrnz.co.nz/datahr/results/092632rs.htm#Race7

[brent_L]

I'm talking thru my kick but still reckon there's a please explain from A Turnbull in the first from Menangle tonight

[Amlin]

The end of an era in some ways today - the last racing activity on the Warragul track before a significant upgrade begins on Monday, October 6 to completely recamber the turns and straights and apply new surface material.


Ironically one of the quickest mile rates ever seen in a trial at Warragul highlighted the program - check out the replay on YouTube www.youtube.com/warragulharness (http://www.youtube.com/warragulharness)

[Richard prior]

Love the surrounds Kyle, Really nice with all the trees, Very picturesque. The commentator did a very good job also.

[Amlin]

Glad you like it - the freeway is at the back of the trees and the railway runs by the grounds back behind where we film from with the station and freeway exit right near the front gate. We are also only a short dash from the centre of the town so very centrally located!


I will give myself a rare pat on the back as I was the commentator - I also film them at the same time so perhaps you could say multi talented!


In a past life I called races on radio but not anymore (long story), now I have to sit and watch!

[Toohard]

You should have pressed on with calling Kyle

Looking at some old photo albums last few days. Horse I had a share in used to race there (Warragul) often. When it was the 3 furlong track. Late 1986 - early 1987.

Only have pages from racebook. One of them December 1986. Says fastest mile rate recorded 2.04 Winsaffair 1979-80.

Our horse went 2.15 winning trial Yarrambat. That made him a 'moral' next start. (No better than 28) Warragul 30-12-1986. 5/1 into 5/2. Ran 2nd beaten 1.5m in 2.14.

Winner trained by Noel Alexander and driven by Jayne Davies.

[Amlin]

They have won plenty of races there over the years Paul so you were bound to run into them at some stage!


The camber on the bends will be lifted from 8% to 12.5% and on the straights from around 2% to 4% when works commence shortly. New surface as well plus the flat spots, soft spots and hard spots etc should disappear. The engineer tells me the track should quicken by a couple of seconds. The current record sits around 1:57.4 so I am excited about what might be achieved on reopening day, December 1. They did go 1:56.7 around there in the 90's before the pegs went in and distances changed.


The track is 22 metres wide from rail to outside fence, a legacy of when they decided to start running 10 off the front in Victoria (briefly) in the late 80's so there is plenty of room to move.


We have thought at the club that the track might end up a little like Delaware, home of Little Brown Jug which is a bit shorter and narrower than Warragul but banked really well. John Tapp's comments on In The Gig last week were interesting. He went to the Jug and commented on the amazing quality of the track. We might just end up with a point of difference in Victoria when our track reopens.


Here is a photo of the track for those who have not been trackside before

[Amlin]

By the way Paul I would have pressed on with calling too but I got stopped in my tracks a year ago and those who look after that won't let me anymore!


As I said, a long story, probably one many have their own versions of from their own lives/careers!

[Richard prior]

Sounds fantastic Kyle, There's definitley room for a Delaware style track in Oz and the times should be improved a hell of a lot with the banking works. Good luck mate, I might have to reschedule my trip down to a Victoria.

[Amlin]

We'll make you welcome Richard at "the best little track in Victoria!"


Hopefully we can have our own "Delaware" style event at our annual Easter Sunday meeting within the next decade.

[Richard prior]

Thanks Kyle, I've always loved that remark in Field of Dreams, Build it and they will come and Easter Sunday sounds perfect.

[Toohard]

All the best with it Kyle. Our bloke won his first race start there and came back and won again later (undefeated there!). Always very, very fond memories.

[Messenger]

Wayne Potter took 3 to Cranbourne tonight and they all saluted

http://www.harness.org.au/meeting-results.cfm?mc=CR280914&ms=vic

$15.70, $4.60, $3.10

Letting $10 ride would have given you $2239

[Richard prior]

Mark(Normy) Pitt would have been ticked pink with the $15.70 winner, He's in partnership with Wayne's wife in this mare and I'm pretty sure that Jack Knight might have had a couple of bucks on the winner. Well done Wayne and Mark.

[Messenger]

6yo M4/C14 class pacer Kotare Roland, winner of tonight's Claiming Masters Final at Melton, was claimed for $35k

Suggests 3rd placegetter 6yo M1/C6 class pacer Classy Weatern's price would not have to drop much from the asking $40k for him to change stables

THREE CLAIMS were made for Kotare and they had to have a ballot

http://www.harness.org.au/stewards-reports-detail.cfm?mc=MX260914&fromstate=vic

[dmac43]

THREE CLAIMS were made for Kotare and they had to have a ballot

http://www.harness.org.au/stewards-reports-detail.cfm?mc=MX260914&fromstate=vic

Roly Wilson from Yarra Glen claimed him

[Race For Fun]

Why would a driver do this?

Albion Park 27/09/2014

RACE 4 – SURE PRODUCTS Q0 PACE (C2+) 2138m MS

It was established by stewards that A Barnes (STORMY TARA) (NZ) drove in this event without wearing a body protector. Subsequently A Barnes was charged under Rule 159 (7) to which he pleaded guilty. When assessing the matter of penalty stewards were mindful that A Barnes was advised to wear an approved vest two weeks prior to tonight’s race and that in tonight’s race he failed to wear a vest at all and also his failure to wear a vest in tonight’s event presented a serious workplace health and safety risk. In view of these circumstances Mr. Barnes’s licence to drive in races was suspended for a period of 3 months.

[Messenger]

He might not like wearing one
He might not believe in 'new' regulations

Remember there were plenty of people that needed convincing/fines to wear seatbelts

[Race For Fun]

Maybe but they have been in for about 10 years.....

Might not have had his wife there to tell him what to wear.

[Messenger]

Anybody know what is happening down at Emma Stewart's stable?
Spelling, holiday, virus or does she always start the season slowly?
Last season she finished with 148 winners but in the first month of this season she only has 1 (from minimal starters)
She has Goodtime Mike in tomorrow night and Guaranteed on Saturday but none in at home-Ballarat on Friday

[Greg Hando]

Yeah Thanks Rich,
had well and truly worked that out mate, my comment was more to do about the incomplete facts from HRNSW...

It's not HRNSW Dan it's the people that do the trial results for the club that are to blame.

[Race For Fun]

How often do the stewards deny a change of tactics request? Regardless of good form or bad.

Tamworth 29/09/2014

Race 3 – XXXX GOLD PACE 1980m
Pre race blood samples were collected from CLEOPATRA SHANNON.

An application was tendered by the connections of CLEOPATRA SHANNON to drive the mare in a more aggressive manner at the start. Acting under Rule 44(2) stewards denied this application due to the extremely poor recent form of the mare.


D Germon ( CLEOPATRA SHANNON) pleaded guilty to a charge under Rule 231(2) of misconduct in that leaving the 700m he used loud unacceptable language. D Germon was fined $200.

[Messenger]

Race 5 at Bendigo tonight

http://www.harness.org.au/fields.cfm?mc=BN011014&fromstate=vic#5

reveals that Kerryn M has lost Willow Robyn to the Gath stable

[Richard prior]

A little surprised by that Kev, Willow Robyn has had 18 starts for 7 wins and 13 times in the cash whilst Kerryn's had her.

[Messenger]

Tonight at Shepp

http://www.harness.org.au/form.cfm?mc=SP021014#2

Albert Austin at 13yo - would he be one of the oldest going around nowadays?

[broncobrad]

If ever there was a perfect example of why slow sectionals should forever be banished to the annals of history, then Jason Turnbull has provided it tonight at Penrith. Instead of being rewarded for giving his charge every possible, throwing caution to the wind at the start and then being able to dictate the pace to perfection on a horse of questionable ability with a demon drive...I will bet his name will be in the stewards report with a fine against his name. Wouldn't happen in a weight for age at Randwick with Hugh Bowman on board. Race 8 when the replay comes up.

[Race For Fun]

http://www.smh.com.au/sport/horseracing/harness-racing-trainers-neil-day-and-dean-mcdowell-challenge-rulings-court-20140928-10n73z.html

[Messenger]

http://www.smh.com.au/sport/horseracing/harness-racing-trainers-neil-day-and-dean-mcdowell-challenge-rulings-court-20140928-10n73z.html
See Cobalt thread folks

[The Escape Club]

Checking the fields for the trials at Menangle tomorrow (06.10.2014) and I noticed a horse in the 2nd named Highdeena.


8 year old mare.


6 career starts for 3 wins, 1 second, 1 fourth and 1 fifth. Those 6 starts were over a 7 week period as a 3 year old.


Last start was 23 July 2010 at Mildura.

[Messenger]

Kim Hillier continues to plunder Shepp with a double last night. These raids by her stable are a relatively new thing - I wonder what prompted the change of attack

Stewards don't seem to have been a wrap for Amanda Turnbull's driving last night - querying her drives on beaten favs in the 1st and 8th
Daryl Douglas took the initiative in the first and I think if she had have learnt from that she would have done the same in the 8th
Stewards probably extra vigilant when it comes to heats

[trish]

http://www.harnesslink.com/News/Victorious-cleared-to-return-home

Just found this......what great news.

[trish]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BmlJt-tIUAEFGY0.jpg:large

What a great photo. Dublin racing club.

[trish]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BzqzbEnCUAAYQsc.jpg:large
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[Messenger]

Echuca tonight.
I reckon it might have been a while since legend Neville Welsh trained a double
I hope the great horsemen around, like Neville, have 'young apprentices' learning from them - they have 50yrs+ of knowledge

[Race For Fun]

Extended Form Guide in the Advertiser - Monday

16 October 2014 by Office of the Chief Executive Officer, John Lewis

NEWS ROOM

As part of our ongoing commitment to grow wagering on our code locally, HRSA are very pleased to advise that it is commencing an extended form guide in The Advertiser for our Monday race meetings commencing on 20 October 2014. Mondays presented the best opportunity for an extended form guide due to the available space in The Advertiser lift out form guide. The form guide will feature as follows: Full page, Modern colour format, More form analysis, Speed maps for every race, Tips from harness racing experts, and Drivers and Trainers Premiership tables.

The extended form guide will be conducted on a trial basis, and during this period HRSA will closely monitor its impact on wagering.

More information: John Lewis, CEO – Ph: 0417855300

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Race programme for Globe Derby Park, Monday 20 October 2014

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I take it this is a South Australian newspaper. I think this is what trot clubs need to do to get publicly now a day as papers don't seem interested in chasing harness racing stories.

[The Form Student]

There are lots of things that can be done to help punters to be "welcomed and pampered" as they should be!
Firstly, what has happened to the free sky channel coverage on-line at the moment, for all codes, it comes on for 30 seconds then turns off, not everyone has access to Sky channel in a TAB, can watch at home, or club or pub etc........there is an audience coverage not being met!
They need to fix up the radio coverage over the whole of Australia, I drive thousands of kilometres from one end of the country to the other and north to south, to say the coverage is pathetic is an understatement, more loss of potential punters! If you can't listen or see for free, people won't bother!
I live in a town with a racetrack......if you go less than 1 kilometre from the town, there is no coverage! I can get partial coverage from a QLD station, but I am based in NSW! WTF!
Fix up the basics, provide coverage for all, don't just rely on Sky Channel, make it better!
I'm sure there are others who can add something that needs fixing or improving.......I have provided a start!

[trish]

http://www.mandurahmail.com.au/story/2629085/im-victorious-returns-to-his-pinjarra-stable/#slide=10

[aussiebreno]

They've recently started displaying the fixed prices on Sky. Very handy.

[The Form Student]

http://www.mandurahmail.com.au/story/2629085/im-victorious-returns-to-his-pinjarra-stable/#slide=10

What a great bunch of people.........good on you!........A much loved horse!

[trish]

http://www.harness.org.au/news-article.cfm?news_id=24698

[Messenger]

There are lots of things that can be done to help punters to be "welcomed and pampered" as they should be!
Firstly, what has happened to the free sky channel coverage on-line at the moment, for all codes, it comes on for 30 seconds then turns off, not everyone has access to Sky channel in a TAB, can watch at home, or club or pub etc........there is an audience coverage not being met!
They need to fix up the radio coverage over the whole of Australia, I drive thousands of kilometres from one end of the country to the other and north to south, to say the coverage is pathetic is an understatement, more loss of potential punters! If you can't listen or see for free, people won't bother!
I live in a town with a racetrack......if you go less than 1 kilometre from the town, there is no coverage! I can get partial coverage from a QLD station, but I am based in NSW! WTF!
Fix up the basics, provide coverage for all, don't just rely on Sky Channel, make it better!
I'm sure there are others who can add something that needs fixing or improving.......I have provided a start!
Not experienced that Steve

[The Form Student]

Thanks Kev, I have Sky races through my TAB account, you click Media Centre, and you can watch the race, it is video streaming there is usually a 20 second delay from real-time, but for the past week it comes on and then turns off after approx 30 seconds, you then have to click and wait for it to come back on, it is very frustrating when you are on something in front and they are coming after it and the race STOPS!....wonder if anybody else is experiencing this?? It may just be my computer!....Well spotted Kev!

[Messenger]

Thanks Kev, I have Sky races through my TAB account, you click Media Centre, and you can watch the race, it is video streaming there is usually a 20 second delay from real-time, but for the past week it comes on and then turns off after approx 30 seconds, you then have to click and wait for it to come back on, it is very frustrating when you are on something in front and they are coming after it and the race STOPS!....wonder if anybody else is experiencing this?? It may just be my computer!....Well spotted Kev!
I have Sky 1 on Foxtel but often do the TAB log in and watch Sky online anyway - esp if I want to watch Sky 2.
Your problem does sound strange - you haven't gone over your internet quota have you?
I have found Google chrome a better search engine than Internet Explorer for watching Sky eg Internet Explorer will not refresh the 'Next To Go' etc columns when you click their refresh arrows but Google will

[Amlin]

Nice little yarn out of the Redcliffe meeting this week. From the Courier Mail http://m.couriermail.com.au/sport/superracing/ken-parker-81-drives-colada-rose-to-win-at-redcliffe-paceway/story-fnii0njy-1227093522011?nk=1601924706fac1382ef4085ec6a17bd2


IT’S not uncommon to get stuck behind senior citizen drivers at Redcliffe.
But at Redcliffe Paceway yesterday, 81-year-old Ken Parker put an entirely new spin on the oft-joked-about stereotype.
Parker steered Colada Rose, a mare he bred, owns and trains, to victory in the fourth race, bringing up her first win in 61 starts.
It was his first win in the seat since April 2008.
“It will take a month to take the smile off my face. I’ll have to have an operation to get rid of it,” Parker said.
“It’s quite a good thrill because she’s been knocking on the door and running seconds and thirds and seconds and thirds, but just couldn’t quite crack the one. But today she cracked it and led all the way.”

Parker first entered harness racing in 1950 but left the sport when he became a family man.
“I gave them away, got married and had a family and had to give horses away for 20 years,” he said.
“When I retired at 65 I went and bought a horse and finished up with about three or four of them.
“That’s what keeps me going, that’s what keeps me alive.
“At 72 I had (heart) bypasses done and got a new lease on life, so I said I’m not going to waste it, I’m going to put it to good bloody use, so I am.
“If I didn’t have a horse I don’t know what I’d do. I’ve only got the one now. I sacked one, it was no good.”
Parker conceded Colada Rose will probably “see me out” but he revels rubbing shoulders with rivals only a fraction of his age.
“People say I don’t look 81 and I say ‘what’s 81 got to look like? Is there some set bloody pattern?’ You know,” he said.
“People guess anywhere between 65-72 and I say ‘I love you.’
“This mare, I bred her. I had her mother. She’s five-years-old and it’s been a while since I’ve had a horse racing before she came along.”

[Messenger]

I would hate this to get lost so I made it a thread Kyle

[Race For Fun]

http://www.harnesslink.com/International/Jones-boys-in-trouble-with-JCA

[Messenger]

http://www.harnesslink.com/International/Jones-boys-in-trouble-with-JCA
If there is no question of them administering an alkalizing agent - what is the reason for the readings then?

[Messenger]

Emma Stewart slipped her season into overdrive training 4 winners at Swan Hill, while Gavin Lang drove 5 winners

[trish]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B0NbNflCIAA5_XB.jpg:large

The best drivers in the land at Globe Derby for the @SkyRacingAU (https://twitter.com/SkyRacingAU) Championships

[trish]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B0NwxkzCcAEbTtn.jpg:large

[trish]

Pete McMullen winshttps://pbs.twimg.com/media/B0OcdHXCYAEJNRC.jpg:large

[Messenger]

I reckon the calling was excellent last night Trish. With the drivers in these colours the all the callers usual knowledge went out the window

[Amlin]

Thirty years ago today since Popular Alm made his emotional comeback from injury at Moonee Valley


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tvR-9puqH-w

[The Escape Club]

Thirty years ago today since Popular Alm made his emotional comeback from injury at Moonee Valley


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tvR-9puqH-w


Thanks Kyle, I've just spent the last hour watching some of his races again.


I remember going to watch him, jeez he could pull people through the gate, like Quinny does over here these days.

[lasse]

Just watched his 1983 MM where he outstayed the mighty Gammalite sitting outside him and beating him.Brought back great memories as Poppy was stabled at my Condell Park stables on his Sydney raids.Got a beautiful photo of Vinny and Poppy when they stayed.Not tech savvy enough to post it here but will see if my son can post it!

[Messenger]

Race 2 at Geelong tonight is restricted to horses trained by the holder of a B grade Trainers Licence. Is this a common type of restricted race - I know I am not very observant but I have not noticed this before

[Mister JayKO]

Unheard of - I dare say its restrictive practice but in all my time I have never seen a race programmed for a class of trainer.

[Race For Fun]

They have started running something like that in N.S.W. Races for horses with an average mile rate no better than 2:02 over their last six starts (competitive stakes) and races for trainer who did not train a winner in the season 2013 - 2014 (encouragement stakes). They change the mile rate of the competitive stakes and some encouragement stakes are for less than five or 10 wins for a season.


COMPETITIVE & ENCOURAGEMENT STAKES

Effective immediately HRNSW has changed the conditions of the Competitive and Encouragement Stakes.
Competitive Stakes
The intention of Competitive Stakes events is to allow those horses that might not be competitive in class or divided stakes
racing to be placed against others of the same capability at a given time in their career.
Generally these races have worked very well prior to the introduction of the new race programming and handicapping
system on 1 September 2014 and since that date.
Numerous circumstances have occurred in all Regions where well performed horses have gained a start under the
advertised conditions by virtue of competing in standing start or long distance events in New Zealand within its last 6 starts.
As soon as this scenario frequently occurred, which is against the intention of the race conditions, HRNSW took steps to
ensure that such scenario does not arise again into the future.
The new conditions for Competitive Stakes events is as follows:
 For horses which have had a minimum of 6 career starts and whose last 6 starts were in NSW
 An average individual mile rate of no better than a specified time is to be stated
 The average individual mile rates are to be based on a specified number of starts (i.e. 4, 6 or 10)
 The conditions may or may not have a specified class restriction (i.e. assessed no better than C1).
For example:
For horses which have had a minimum of 6 starts and whose last 6 starts were in NSW that have an average
individual mile rate of no better than 2:02.0 (over the last 6 starts) and are assessed no better than C1.

Encouragement Stakes

The intention of Encouragement Stakes events is to allow trainers that have not won a specified number of races over a
prescribed time to race against other trainers in the same situation.
Generally these races have worked very well prior to the introduction of the new race programming and handicapping
system on 1 September 2014 and since that date.
Numerous circumstances have arose in the 2014/15 season where trainers with limited wins in the 2013/14 season have
been eligible under the conditions and have gone on to win multiple races in the 2014/15 season.
As soon as this scenario occurred, which is against the intention of the race conditions, HRNSW took steps to ensure that
such scenario does not arise again into the future.
The new conditions for Encouragement Stakes events is as follows:
 The conditions may or may not have a specified class assessment front and/or specified class assessment back (i.e.
C0/C1).
 For horses trained by trainers which have not won a specified number of races during a specified time frame.
 Horses must be trained by an eligible NSW licensed trainer for 28 days prior to acceptances.
 Eligibility is determined by lodgement of the stable return to HRNSW.
For example:
3YO+ C0/C1. For horses trained by trainers which did not train a winner in the 2013/14 season. Trainers who have
trained a winner in the 2014/15 season are ineligible. Horses must be trained by an eligible NSW licensed trainer for
28 days prior to acceptances. Eligibility determined by lodgement of the stable return with HRNSW.
For further information please contact the Racing Office on 1300 712 612.
John Dumesny
Chief Executive

Fishers Ghost Meeting Menangle Sunday conditions
http://www.harness.org.au/meeting-programme.cfm?rm=PC261014&state=nsw&fromstate=nsw

[Messenger]

Ultra consistent Lord Monaloo 54-20-16-5 (and yet an M0) has found his way back to trainer Kylie Sugars and won first up for her tonight at Geelong paying $25.40

http://www.harness.org.au/meeting-results.cfm?mc=GE211014&ms=vic#GEC21101401

Kylie trained him for his first 2 starts nearly 3yrs ago and 51 starts later he is back

[Race For Fun]

Kev, what is this? Get your man at HRV on to this.


This week’s Insider Access newsletter contains the following feature stories:

AU: Thin skinned stewards - Following an exclusive article on Harnesslink earlier this month, Victorian horseman Lance Justice is the subject of stewards' inquiry. Angered by the suspensions he received at Melton on September 29, Justice questioned the lack of definition between light and heavy interference stating: "The stewards are too heavy handed. There is no defining difference between light, medium or heavy interference, and as such, it’s just bang...this is the sentence. Its mandatory sentencing gone mad."

AU: Novelty or offensive? - In a world of political correctness, would be it okay to conduct a race limited to third generation Australians? How about a race for men only?

[Messenger]

They do not reply to my email. Somebody who would know better than me suggested to me that they ignore stuff they do not like.
I may have to follow TC's link and use their official complaint form to get a reply

[jackthepunter]

They do not reply to my email. Somebody who would know better than me suggested to me that they ignore stuff they do not like.
I may have to follow TC's link and use their official complaint form to get a reply
don't hold your breath, having sent many emails they rarely get back to you. Their's not acountable for anything

[trish]

http://www.harnessmediacentre.com.au/uploads/files/integrity%20notices/(1)%20elevated%20tco2%20levels%20notice%20horses%2 0required%20to%20present%20early%20(1).pdf

[trish]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xtvcrKHq1Zs&feature=youtu.be

[Big K]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xtvcrKHq1Zs&feature=youtu.be

Wow!!

[Messenger]

http://www.harness.org.au/meeting-re...ic#MXC24101403

The stewards comment for this race had me thinking the winner must have been the run of the century

17 3WL

Apparently 17 means Tailed Off. The horse was actually in the 8 posn 1x3 but the field was slightly spread as the speed went on approaching the bell

17 is simply a ridiculous comment

(This is from Race 6 from Melton last night - I just moved it from the wrong thread)

[Messenger]

Grinfromeartoear could easily sire the Trifecta in the 1st at Horsham tomorrow.

http://www.harness.org.au/form.cfm?mc=HS271014#1

[Richard prior]

Old Grin's an amazing horse Kev, He just keeps churning winners out. A friend of mine recommended him as a mate for a mare in NZ a few years ago and the lady breeder didn't want a bar of him but my friend persisted with the recommendation, The lady went ahead and bred her mare to Grin and it ended up being a pretty good result, Smiling Shard.

[The Form Student]

Grinfromeartoear could easily sire the Trifecta in the 1st at Horsham tomorrow.

http://www.harness.org.au/form.cfm?mc=HS271014#1

Kev, if they do.........will you have the "Dolmio Grin?"

[Messenger]

I am going but as is often the case, I may not have a bet. I live only an hour away and it is a beautiful sunny morning here despite a strong southerly

[The Form Student]

Just going through the replays of Penrith last week, could not help but mention our old mate "Doinmabest's" call of Race 6.... I think he was on the leader!! But he managed to get out of jail!

http://www.trotstv.com.au/?mc=PE231014&rn=6

[Messenger]

I reckon 6yo Indulgent might be claimed for $5k in his first claimers appearance at Ballarat on Thursday. I do not know what has gone wrong with him of late although you only have to go back 2 months to a nice 2nd
When he was with the Mannings I thought he might have made a good horse but something seems to have gone amiss

[Messenger]

Brain Kiesey's $49 winner Shoe Shine Boy prevented it being 7/7 favourites at Cranbourne tonight with a treble to Andy Gath and a double to Emma Stewart

http://www.harness.org.au/meeting-results.cfm?mc=CR281014&ms=vic&fromstate=vic

It was Shoe Shine Boy's 7th start in 18 days

(LOL Givemeaspell won the next race ;))

[The Form Student]

Obviously, the horse just needed a few runs under it's belt to get fit! Or it could be just a case of the numbers game! Hey Kev, do you suffer from insomnia.......it must have been after midnight when you put up this post?

[Messenger]

Who goes to bed before midnight? (Retired and don't have to get up early :D)

[The Form Student]

In a cost cutting move HRNSW have decided to incorporate the Mobile barrier and Ambulance into 1 vehicle. A spoken advised, "that immediately the start is effected the mobile will move to the left off the track, and then follow the field for the rest of the race.......the starter and driver will be trained in 1st aid procedures to provide assistance in case their are any accidents." They also added the vehicle had a 3rd usage, but said, "we won't go into that at this stage!"


http://ts1.mm.bing.net/th?&id=HN.607987101082193663&w=300&h=300&c=0&pid=1.9&rs=0&p=0

[Messenger]

Is that serious Steve? I don't know how I would feel about not having actual paramedics on course if I was a driver. Then again, statistics may show the call for their service may be no higher than many other jobs

[The Form Student]

Is that serious Steve? I don't know how I would feel about not having actual paramedics on course if I was a driver. Then again, statistics may show the call for their service may be no higher than many other jobs

I don't think so , I just found this picture, and conjured up some usages for it, but it is food for thought!

[teecee]

Is that serious Steve?


Are you for real Kev?? Don't take up fishing. You'll miss your hook line AND sinker!!!
I'm wondering Kev if you don't need a bit more sleep...LOL

[Messenger]

I actually try to go to bed at midnight (training myself but I am more work than a trotter :)) and often do not get up till 8am

I always said I should be a fisherman as I get hooked/caught on everything - dam annoying

[The Form Student]

Did you see "DJGOOD's comment on the Trotter's thread, it was like 3 O'clock in the morning!

[Messenger]

I think it may have been closer to 1am but you will notice Richard often posts before 5am - an early riser and hard worker that man

[The Form Student]

I actually try to go to bed at midnight (training myself but I am more work than a trotter :)) and often do not get up till 8am

I always said I should be a fisherman as I get hooked/caught on everything - dam annoying

Kev, thanks for sending in that photo of your last birthday! It looks like everybody had a great day!

http://media.harnesslink.mycms.co.nz/files/w400h320/73105/Joe+Muscara+90th+birthday+%282%29.jpg

[Messenger]

Don't be ageist Steve, if you are lucky you will make it one day. Some of the most enlightening years of my working life were spent working in Aged Care.

ps It would be great to make it to 90 - that would mean I have another 50% of my life to go

[The Form Student]

Did you like the pacers on the side of your cake? Tell you what, I wouldn't mind a slice of that honey roll, right now!

[Messenger]

I meant to say what a fine job you had done on the cake - I wonder if anyone here knows that Joe

[The Form Student]

I meant to say what a fine job you had done on the cake - I wonder if anyone here knows that Joe

I thought "Joe" was your nickname?

[Messenger]

Am I right in thinking that Gavin Lang did most of Susan Hunter's driving last season - seems to be Ahmed Taiba this season (Gavin hard to get?)

[Messenger]

I cannot wait until December when we go back to two meetings on Wednesday's and Thursdays and some Fridays and thereby lots of sunny days at the trots

[trish]

Andrew Bensley @AndrewBensley · 20m 20 minutes ago (https://twitter.com/AndrewBensley/status/527642052666740736)
Trots: Gary Hall Senior spoke @SkySportsRadio1 (https://twitter.com/SkySportsRadio1) today about the racing future of champion pacer, I'm theMightyQuinn. http://media.skyracing.com.au/POD/57/nFKCib.mp3 … (http://t.co/inWDwXqdNn)

[aussiebreno]

Andrew Bensley @AndrewBensley · 20m 20 minutes ago (https://twitter.com/AndrewBensley/status/527642052666740736)
Trots: Gary Hall Senior spoke @SkySportsRadio1 (https://twitter.com/SkySportsRadio1) today about the racing future of champion pacer, I'm theMightyQuinn. http://media.skyracing.com.au/POD/57/nFKCib.mp3 … (http://t.co/inWDwXqdNn)
At work, can't listen. What's it say?

[trish]

Stunning interview with Harness trainer Gary Hall Senior today @SkySportsRadio1 (https://twitter.com/SkySportsRadio1) Champion, I'm theMightyQuinn may've run his last race.

[trish]

http://www.harnesslink.com/International/Trainer-found-guilty-in-court-for-horse-doping

For those who haven't read this.

[Race For Fun]

What about what this man Damian Wilson has been through. I don't know him but geez you would have to wish him all the luck in the world and many, many winners.


http://www.harnesslink.com/Australia/Wilson-s-first-win-along-comeback-trail

[Messenger]

3yoF Sparkling was just that on debut for Amanda Grieve at Ballarat tonight

http://www.harness.org.au/meeting-results.cfm?mc=BA301014&ms=vic#BAC30101406

[trish]

Congrats to Aussie driver David White on getting his 1st NZ win aboard Mach's Love at Forbury tonight #hrnzmilestone (https://twitter.com/hashtag/hrnzmilestone?src=hash) pic.twitter.com/laJmitdKN0 (http://t.co/laJmitdKN0)




https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B1LgJZlCQAA_3Zz.jpg
(https://twitter.com/HarnessRacingNZ/status/527730559913426944/photo/1)

[teecee]

Can you tell me more about his oz exploits please

[trish]

David worked for Blake Fitzpatrick for about 18-20 mths & in that time gained excellent advice & driving experience from Blake as you can see by this driving table. There is an article about him, I will try & find it for you.

Leading Concession Driver .
David came 8th. Great effort.
David White240 32 28 22 30 $232,445
Leading Concession Driver

NameRaces1sts2nds3rds4thsStakesLauren Panella417147684438$1,192,305Robert Morris501103685651$645,935David Morris55985787760$648,867Joshua Osborn35775664527$341,430Todd McCarthy38960515453$707,683Amy Day36250414547$301,658Brad Hewitt29243503826$336,680David White24032282230$232,445Chris Geary29731313444$216,440Sam Hewitt26830313134$167,173

[trish]

http://www.dailyadvertiser.com.au/story/2565823/david-white-making-tracks-to-nz/

[teecee]

Thanks for that. He drove the mare very well. 1/2 to TTL

[Toohard]

Luke AWOL Melton last week. A 'filly' he's been following took precedence. But during the week he sorted his priorities (into the right order!) and returned last night to continue honing his race calling skills.

Poor buggers had bad hay fever all week but battled on. By the second last it got the better off him...

http://youtu.be/ICBMB5gaZ9I

[brent_L]

gesundheit

[Messenger]

Luke AWOL Melton last week. A 'filly' he's been following took precedence. But during the week he sorted his priorities (into the right order!) and returned last night to continue honing his race calling skills.

Poor buggers had bad hay fever all week but battled on. By the second last it got the better off him...

http://youtu.be/ICBMB5gaZ9I

Hayfever gave me hell for decades until I got on the Beconase nasal spray - has he tried that Paul?

[aussiebreno]

Tritton stable going horrible so far tonight.

[The Escape Club]

Tritton stable going horrible so far tonight.



They did, not one winner for the night, can't remember that last time that happened.


Lauren drives, how Lauren drives, perhaps Shane and the owners needed to see where they are at with the big sprints coming up leading into the MM and all the various heats with $50k finals on MM day.

[Race For Fun]

Hope I don't offend anyone by mentioning The Cup but you have to have sympathy for the horse that died. Also the horse that kicked the fence and broke it's leg.

Fully understand if you delete this post Tony.

[teecee]

I've read a bit on here about the poor tv cover of Harness Racing especially in Victoria.
Can it be that Channel 7 used these same people today to do the camera and production work for the Melbourne Cup.
We were provided with coverage of Channel 7 efforts today on NZ Tab TV.
IMO it was the worst piece of sporting television I think I have ever witnessed. The first 100 metres of aerial coverage was not bad.
The last 250 metres from the main camera allowed one to finally see where there runner was positioned. The rest, taken from a ground level moving object positioned some 50 metres in front of and to the inside of the field provided absolutely no comparative perspective of where each horse was positioned. It was genuinely pathetic.

[Toohard]

I've read a bit on here about the poor tv cover of Harness Racing especially in Victoria.
Can it be that Channel 7 used these same people today to do the camera and production work for the Melbourne Cup.
We were provided with coverage of Channel 7 efforts today on NZ Tab TV.
IMO it was the worst piece of sporting television I think I have ever witnessed. The first 100 metres of aerial coverage was not bad.
The last 250 metres from the main camera allowed one to finally see where there runner was positioned. The rest, taken from a ground level moving object positioned some 50 metres in front of and to the inside of the field provided absolutely no comparative perspective of where each horse was positioned. It was genuinely pathetic.



Lots of complaints over here too teecee. You couldn't hear the call nor see where horses were positioned down straight first time. Only option to watch live was Channel 7. Two minute delay on racing channels (Sky & TVN) that did their normal camera position coverage.


A complete balls up!! On the big stage!!

[Richard prior]

I've watched the Cup every year from 1970 onwards, I missed today's live coverage but just watched the replay and have to agree Tony, That's was the worst I've seen in 40 odd years, Absolutley atrocious.

[Richard prior]

Usually you can't compare the coverage, It's fantastic but Jesus, What were they thinking today??? How good would the split screen that the NZ trots have looked??? At least you could have seen your horse in the run. Todays coverage by 7 was like having tunnel vision.

[brent_L]

I found it perplexing.....glad I wasn't alone

[trish]

http://www.hrnz.co.nz/images/Final_Field_NZ_Cup_v3.pdf

[brent_L]

http://www.hrnz.co.nz/images/Final_Field_NZ_Cup_v3.pdf
I'd like to see Christen Me driven more aggressively this year from the exact draw he had last year. The mare looks like she should secure a beaut trip. Race on!

[Messenger]

I've read a bit on here about the poor tv cover of Harness Racing especially in Victoria.
Can it be that Channel 7 used these same people today to do the camera and production work for the Melbourne Cup.
We were provided with coverage of Channel 7 efforts today on NZ Tab TV.
IMO it was the worst piece of sporting television I think I have ever witnessed. The first 100 metres of aerial coverage was not bad.
The last 250 metres from the main camera allowed one to finally see where there runner was positioned. The rest, taken from a ground level moving object positioned some 50 metres in front of and to the inside of the field provided absolutely no comparative perspective of where each horse was positioned. It was genuinely pathetic.
We are used to the inside of the field camera Tony and when they use it for close-up panning it is not too bad, what was particularly bad this year was that long distance shot employed after the first 100m of aerial all the way until the back straight - dreadful and resembled a promo for tourists type production

[aussiebreno]

I'd like to see Christen Me driven more aggressively this year from the exact draw he had last year. The mare looks like she should secure a beaut trip. Race on!
Didn't think the draw had been done yet. Can't find anything on HRNZ website. Have you got draw?
If you were going off what the flyer Trish posted that's only the field in Alphabetical Order.

[trish]

Didn't think the draw had been done yet. Can't find anything on HRNZ website. Have you got draw?
If you were going off what the flyer Trish posted that's only the field in Alphabetical Order.


Opps, no not yet should be out soon....lunch time NZ say

[Race For Fun]

Is this the field?

http://infohorse.hrnz.co.nz/datahr/fields/111132fd.htm#Race-10

[trish]

Thanks Toni.

[brent_L]

Didn't think the draw had been done yet. Can't find anything on HRNZ website. Have you got draw?
If you were going off what the flyer Trish posted that's only the field in Alphabetical Order.
More fool me.....just glad I didn't jump into the $4- after looking at what I thought the draw was. Stupid is as stupid does!!

[Richard prior]

Is this the field?

http://infohorse.hrnz.co.nz/datahr/fields/111132fd.htm#Race-10

Yes that's it!!!

[Messenger]

Rita Burnett Quinellaed the first at Yarra Glen yesterday - I reckon it would have been the stables first quinella for quite some time
http://www.harness.org.au/meeting-results.cfm?mc=YG061114&ms=vic#YGC06111409

[Race For Fun]

http://www.harness.org.au/news-article.cfm?news_id=24874

There is no doubt that Terror To Love is one of the best horses to come out of NZ. It's just a shame that he has never really fired in Australia. To have won this race three times and as good a chance to win this years as any other horse in the race is proof of his tallent. If he wins will he get an invite to the MM (is it one of the invite races)?

Big ask of For A Reason first start in a stand and it's in a group 1 race with all those seasoned stand horses. Trials when they step with about six other horses are a big difference to $700,000 races.

[Messenger]

If we needed any reminding that the Gallops industry has 1000 times the clout that we do - just look at all the positive stories in The Age today and I have seen a promo for a positive story on 7 news tonight (after the drama of the Cup). As Ray Chaplin (Equineexcellence) has pointed out in the past - we really do need to attract that top end customers (to have any clout)

[Bonnie]

When we raced at Moonee Valley we would invite 20/30 clients 2 or 3 times a year to dinner and a night of harness racing. Some of these people would then race horses with us for fun and a social night out. We have never invited anyone to Melton. It is our premier harness racing venue but because of location and lack of corporate facilities it fails to attract ' top end customers ' HRV 's focus is on the punter but IMO the punter is not tomorrows owner. It is a serious concern for breeders as ownership requires not only a passion for the sport but the spending money to sustain that passion.
We attended an ownership group meeting a few weeks ago . When I looked around the table I realised that all attendees were business people who had an income outside of harness racing . The AFL have realised that there is a higher expectation for better facilities , comfort ,dining, and public transport access and have rationalised and improved their grounds to cater for this ( no more standing room at the Footy ).
Until we lift our game at our premier facility I cannot see top end customers wanting to drive all the way to Melton for a night out.

[Messenger]

Spot on Anne. I am only an enthusiast who has drifted to and from harness for 45yrs and was in my 'cycling period' when Melton happened (not that I would have had any say) but it just astounds me that HRV adopted this "we will just create our own little pond" mentality

ps The 7 racing coverage just had a story about how failed racehorses are retrained - all these stories are no coincidence, they are the gallops industry showing how it can respond to adverse publicity.

[Race For Fun]

http://www.harnesslink.com/International/HRNSW-Media-Release---Overseas-testing-of-Swab-Samples

This has to help.

[aussiebreno]

Two points from Junee meeting on Saturday night.

Race 5. First quarter is up a hill and round a tight bend. Panella absolutely rushes out her metropolitan drives to go low 26s at Menangle. I'm not convinced they went 25.8 at Junee.
Race 6. Can anybody point me in the right direction on the non runners and Gina Gina. To be declared a non runner my understanding is you must have been denied a fair start. To me Gina Gina clearly gallops before the point of no return, impacting the three non runners. So to me, this is the correct ruling that they were declared non runners. But isn't it also true Gina Gina didn't get a fair crack at the start (albeit it was it's own fault)? So why is that horse declared a runner. Stewards comments say Broke After Start. While I am of the opinion it broke before the start, if it was in fact after the start then obviously the other three got impacted after the start and were then therefore deemed to be given a fair start and should be runners? Where am I going wrong?

[Richard prior]

Totally agree Breno, Gina Gina should have been declared a non runner as well and the horse 3 in from the outside has clearly struck the gate before they were released, Surely you would flip the red light on and restart the race.

[Big K]

Google "M F Hollywood" and check out the positive stories on a standardbred outside of the racetrack.Also "james the first abc landline" although showing the darkside of racing in the begining it tells of the remarkable story of horse and rider.

[Race For Fun]

Position vacant.

http://www.harness.org.au/news-article.cfm?news_id=24870

[Messenger]

Is Reid leaving?

[Race For Fun]

Is Reid leaving?

Don't think so, not by the add.

Please send resume and cover letter to rsanders@hrnsw.com.au
For further information please call Reid Sanders (02) 97226600


If you need a reference let me know. :D:D:D

[Messenger]

I thought Reid was the Chairman (but I am a Vic)
Some reference that would be!

[Race For Fun]

I thought Reid was the Chairman (but I am a Vic)
Some reference that would be!

Came as Integrity Officer then when Bill Cable who was Chairman left, Mr Sanders was wearing both hats.

[Toohard]

http://www.harness.org.au/news-article.cfm?news_id=24916

If you go to link on that page and go down a little way, you will see this..

“ . . . for no matter what other enticements, what will lure you here, more than once. . . here . . . under the stars . . . is the intrigue, the charm, the tragedy, the triumph, and the bravery born of innocence, of this, the most unique of all animals, called the horse.” John Hunt farewell speech excerpt; Gloucester Park, December 12th, 2008.

Amen to that!!

[The Form Student]

Harness racing in SA is being given a clean up, good on you Barbara! Not just the horses!
http://www.harness.org.au/news-article.cfm?news_id=24929

[Mister JayKO]

Race 1 @ Redcliffe today....possibly the worst race of all time formwise.http://www.harness.org.au/fields.cfm?mc=RE131114

[The Form Student]

Race 1 @ Redcliffe today....possibly the worst race of all time formwise.http://www.harness.org.au/fields.cfm?mc=RE131114

True, but as you know there will be a winner!.......they all have to start somewhere!

[Messenger]

I see Gaita trained a winner tonight - is she training on appeal still or did she have her appeal upheld?

[Messenger]

What is going on here I thought, The Age has got today's Trots fields in it - then I realized that through blurry eyes I had picked up the wrong paper at the newsagent this morning LOL

[Amlin]

Don't tell me you've switched over to the other side Kev? They just put the price up on the Sun again too!

[Amlin]

Not often you can lead around the turn at Globe Derby and run second last but it happened last night


http://www.harness.org.au/video-replay.cfm?state=SA&raceCode=GDM15111410

[aussiebreno]

Not often you can lead around the turn at Globe Derby and run second last but it happened last night


http://www.harness.org.au/video-replay.cfm?state=SA&raceCode=GDM15111410
Good thing replay doesn't have Cheltenham odds on display like they did last night on Sky during the home straight.

[brent_L]

Not often you can lead around the turn at Globe Derby and run second last but it happened last night


http://www.harness.org.au/video-replay.cfm?state=SA&raceCode=GDM15111410
There's just too many ways to do your $$ on the punt. Whilst not as bad as that, I've still got a lot more drinking to do today to try to forget about Vics Cheval's mistake on Fri night.

[The Form Student]

The "Push Out Pole" moved from 600 metre mark to the 400 metre mark at Menangle, to stop runners coming from the rear being forced wide on the home turn.......let's see how many drivers take up this option!

http://www.harness.org.au/news-article.cfm?news_id=24942

[Richard prior]

The "Push Out Pole" moved from 600 metre mark to the 400 metre mark at Menangle, to stop runners coming from the rear being forced wide on the home turn.......let's see how many drivers take up this option!

http://www.harness.org.au/news-article.cfm?news_id=24942
Would love to know Danno's thoughts on this one??

[Race For Fun]

http://www.harnesslink.com/Australia/MEDIA-RELEASE---Office-Of-The-Racing-Integrity-Commissioner2

[The Form Student]

Whoops!

://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=kWMeIuUUSwY (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=kWMeIuUUSwY)

[Messenger]

Another full page story/ad in The Age of 'Why I Work With Thoroughbreds', this time by a retrainer. We can plainly see how much money the gallops have when challenged but I do not see the value of these ads as everyone is thinking - "this is because of the anti-racing campaign"

[Messenger]

Daddy Lang has 3 starters in the 3yo trot at Kilmore tonight - why wouldn't he have Gavin on one of them?
Gav is on one for him in the last

[Messenger]

Approaching December and from 40+ starters so far this season Jayne Davies has still not got a winner and she did not even get a placegetter tonight - the dam will surely burst soon
Last season 302 starters for 38 winners 52 seconds and 39 thirds

[Toohard]

http://www.harness.org.au/fields.cfm?mc=MG301114

Race 6 Mount Gambier this Sunday.

[Race For Fun]

http://www.harness.org.au/fields.cfm?mc=MG301114

Race 6 Mount Gambier this Sunday.

Has that ever been done before? Notify stewards with more than one runner will be like a shopping list. Good luck to him (not really needed I suppose).

[p plater]

This would make team driving hard to stick

[Amlin]

Hope the truck doesn't break down on the way across!


It has happened in the other codes - I think maybe G Tindale in WA may have done it with some 2YO pacers or perhaps in the old days of North QLD trots it could have happened also.


Someone will know!

[Messenger]

They would have agreed to let him just run it at home and text in the result but his home is on the road

[Amlin]

Funny thing is he trains on the St Arnaud track yet hardly had a starter at their once a year program recently

[brent_L]

Hope the truck doesn't break down on the way across!


It has happened in the other codes - I think maybe G Tindale in WA may have done it with some 2YO pacers or perhaps in the old days of North QLD trots it could have happened also.


Someone will know!
I'm pretty sure it has happened at least a couple of times in Nth Qld gallops.....Craiglea

[Toohard]

Hope the truck doesn't break down on the way across!


It has happened in the other codes - I think maybe G Tindale in WA may have done it with some 2YO pacers or perhaps in the old days of North QLD trots it could have happened also.


Someone will know!

Yes am told that's correct. 9 in one race in Perth. Also told same trainer took 38 2YOs to races one day. Two trucks carried 12 and 9. A 7 and 4 horse float. A double float full of gear and others took the other 6 horses. A lesson in logistics!

[Maorisidol]

http://www.harness.org.au/fields.cfm?mc=MG301114

Race 6 Mount Gambier this Sunday.



Wow good on him.
In fact he has 1 missing, Apple Beach.
Lord Deville first race for the new stable.
Ill have $1000 on Its Not Dark Yet! She won last night with a leg in the air and I got $9 Fixed thnku! Shes flying right now and clearly the best in that stable. Hes done a great job to turn around a horse whose had several trainers including Andy Gath from memory, that had ability but would have more zeros in her form that anything.
Go Team Kiesey!

[djgood]

I was looking to buy lord deville to race here in nsw he looks a type who keeps the prize money coming in

[Toohard]

http://www.harnesslink.com/mobile#url=News/Kiesey-s-slice-of-history

He's got 11 in for the day.

[Maorisidol]

Who is Ben Krahe?
He does the markets in the Melbourne Herald Sun for the trots and some of the prices he gives are amazing, I want in on HIS prices!
Would love to get on some of the prices he gives...

[aussiebreno]

Who is Ben Krahe?
He does the markets in the Melbourne Herald Sun for the trots and some of the prices he gives are amazing, I want in on HIS prices!
Would love to get on some of the prices he gives...
Haven't seen his prices in Hun but have come across his twitter from time to time and he actually seems pretty switched on.

[Messenger]

With the scratching of Priceless Gem, Noel Shinn will be driving the emergency Alina in the 8th at Melton tomorrow night. Ruth already has Christopher driving Steam Washed
The chronicles say that Noel has already had one drive this season (I missed that one) but none last season

[apexguy]

Shipwreck broke in the score up again last night and took no part in the race. I have lost count of the number of times this has happened, a warning was issued and he remains in draw. Doesn't seem to be any consideration for the average punter, I can't remember when horses were made to trial at least two times and then be ODM before being able to start again? Maybe they were the good old days!

[aussiebreno]

Granted their is only 8 runners and some of these aren't actually C6s but has anybody ever seen a C6 only race?

Menangle on Friday there is one.

[The Form Student]

Our mate the "pastry chef" Adam Francis just drove the last winner at Newcastle R7.....Blizzard of Ozz...............good work!

[Messenger]

At Swan Hill tonight, David Jack, Danny O'Bree and Andrew Prothero all trained their first winners for the season. Not breaking any droughts like Jayne Davies yesterday as they had only had a couple of starters between them but no doubt nice to get the scoreboard ticking over - well done men

[Messenger]

I made mention of Magic Attack in another thread last week:

"Just caught up with ABOB's 2nd start at Charlton on Monday = public appearances are his future.
Smoken you were right (see ABOB thread) - he will never win a race and I do not think he is doing his stud career any favours (would have been better to keep his lack of ability/speed a secret)

http://www.harness.org.au/meeting-re...ic#CHC24111404

Getting off topic - some improvement by Magic Attack to win that race and notch his first win in 3½ yrs despite death seating in nice time (someone fancied him as he was only 18/1 after being 124/1 the previous week when he did little)"

Back out to $95 today at Maryborough despite winning his last start and he won again!

http://www.harness.org.au/meeting-results.cfm?mc=MH041214&ms=vic#MHC04121402

[Messenger]

Betting against the odds on pops would not have done you much good at Ballarat tonight
A couple of even money faves got beaten but the other 5 faves got up
4 of whom were $1.40, $1.30, $1.30, $1.20
You cannot imagine it is good for turnover

http://www.harness.org.au/meeting-results.cfm?mc=BA041214&ms=vic

[Messenger]

I was there to see Hi Tech Fury break the Stawell Tk Rec this month and meant to back him next start and could have cried when I saw he paid nearly $40 on Yarra Glen Cup day.
I could not believe that Blake Redden did not rate him in his top 6 for Cranbourne tonight. Paid $15 this time.
Yep I got hooked on watching all the episodes of Homeland I have missed and completely forgot about him again
No fool like an old fool

[Richard prior]

I was there to see Hi Tech Fury break the Stawell Tk Rec this month and meant to back him next start and could have cried when I saw he paid nearly $40 on Yarra Glen Cup day.
I could not believe that Blake Redden did not rate him in his top 6 for Cranbourne tonight. Paid $15 this time.
Yep I got hooked on watching all the episodes of Homeland I have missed and completely forgot about him again
No fool like an old fool
Your not Robinson Crusoe there Kev, I've missed the boat on quite a few since i've been back in Sydney.

[Amlin]

They are a patient lot those trotting people - stewards report from Melton on Wednesday...


RACE 8 - MERRY CHRISTMAS PACE (2ND HEAT) (2240 MS)
Chris Mallia, trainer of Pagans Gift, was questioned regarding the seemingly improved performance of the gelding. Mr Mallia explained that he attributed the performance of Pagans Gift to the gelding being best suited when racing in a forward position. Vincent Langdon, driver of Pagans Gift, added that he was surprised of the sectionals recorded by Pagans Gift as he did not feel Pagans Gift was actually travelling as fast as evidenced by the sectional times recorded.
Post-race blood samples were collected from Pagans Gift at 8:30pm, two and a half hours subsequent to this event.

[Messenger]

Why would the samples have been taken so late esp as it was the last race?

[Amlin]

Popular Victorian trainer Wally Ibbs passed away suddenly at the weekend. Wally trained down Geelong way for around 50 years, and had numerous winners, with one of his best horses in more recent years being Monarco Man (2007 Warragul Cup). Pictured is Wally and wife Ralda with Monarco Man's driver, Ross Payne

[Messenger]

Albion Park meeting already abandoned for tonight. I thought the track should have handled 15mm since 5am this morning

[Messenger]

St Arnaud racing at Charlton today. I am pretty sure their only home meeting is their Cup and you have to love the name of the last race today

'311 DAYS TO ST ARNAUD CUP PACE'

(maybe there is not much to look forward to at St A - joking of course)

[Amlin]

The calendar has not been released that far ahead so liking the confidence!

[Messenger]

I expect there is a big Carlton contingent at the Albury meet tonight with our champion Chris Judd driving.
There is a small mistake in the fields with a (C) after his name - he is no longer Captain ;)

http://www.harness.org.au/index.cfm?p=f&id=/

[Richard prior]

Bloody big crowd at Albury Kev.

[NormanS]

Race 3 Gloucester Park... http://www.harness.org.au/meeting-results.cfm?mc=GP020115&ms=wa#GPM02011504
Does anyone know the form around this race? The race call expected him to launch and entering the back straight launch he did - 3rd quarter 28.4 went from last to 1st 4 wide. Awesome change of pace.

[Richard prior]

It went pretty well at its previous start Norman but nothing like it did when winning, That was certainly a huge burst of speed.

[brent_L]

Race 3 Gloucester Park... http://www.harness.org.au/meeting-results.cfm?mc=GP020115&ms=wa#GPM02011504
Does anyone know the form around this race? The race call expected him to launch and entering the back straight launch he did - 3rd quarter 28.4 went from last to 1st 4 wide. Awesome change of pace.
He was classes above that lot last night Norman ($2- on Thursday was generous I thought) and the pressure Hall Jnr put on the leader early only enhanced his prospects. I think a better guide to his upcoming prospects could be gauged by the fast class race that followed last night. Tuxedo Tour went round fav in that race after two slashing performances his past 2 both against Heez On Fire. TT wasn't able to race in his desired manner on pace but still finished off strongly to be on the heals of the winner and runner up both of whom will be heading towards the upcoming two big cups. Im not sure either of the aforementioned will secure starts in those G1s but imo would certainly be very competitive in the consolations.

[NormanS]

He was classes above that lot last night Norman ($2- on Thursday was generous I thought) and the pressure Hall Jnr put on the leader early only enhanced his prospects. I think a better guide to his upcoming prospects could be gauged by the fast class race that followed last night. Tuxedo Tour went round fav in that race after two slashing performances his past 2 both against Heez On Fire. TT wasn't able to race in his desired manner on pace but still finished off strongly to be on the heals of the winner and runner up both of whom will be heading towards the upcoming two big cups. Im not sure either of the aforementioned will secure starts in those G1s but imo would certainly be very competitive in the consolations.
Thanks for the response...
So a nice horse well placed by his trainer. Capable of winning a good race here and there through his high speed if it is run to suit.

[brent_L]

He was classes above that lot last night Norman ($2- on Thursday was generous I thought) and the pressure Hall Jnr put on the leader early only enhanced his prospects. I think a better guide to his upcoming prospects could be gauged by the fast class race that followed last night. Tuxedo Tour went round fav in that race after two slashing performances his past 2 both against Heez On Fire. TT wasn't able to race in his desired manner on pace but still finished off strongly to be on the heals of the winner and runner up both of whom will be heading towards the upcoming two big cups. Im not sure either of the aforementioned will secure starts in those G1s but imo would certainly be very competitive in the consolations.
I couldn't have been more wrong Norman......they both got in. http://www.harness.org.au/fields.cfm?mc=GP090115
I was of the belief Avonnova was heading west? Anyone??

[Messenger]

Mildura tonight - another meeting abandoned due to a mere half inch of rain

[Messenger]

You gotta love the racing at Burnie on the 607m track

[Amlin]

Like Melbourne without the grandstands all around. Here is a pic from Twitter


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B7DNC2QCEAAkR9i.jpg

[Amlin]

Three Trafalgar trainers will be seeking to outperform one another in the fourth race at this Monday afternoon's Warragul harness racing meeting.
Chris Hunter, his son Glenn and Glenn's partner Tamie Frith all have starters engaged in the race.
Chris saddles up Feel The Rhythm from barrier one against Glenn's horse Shicka Sharka from gate five.
Tamie Frith trains and drives Bettor Biaggi which starts from barrier three.
Feel The Rhythm ran a good enough race on debut during the week to suggest it will be a chance again on Monday at start two.
Chris Hunter will be looking for a different driver in the race though as his son steers his own horse Shicka Sharka this week.
Bettor Biaggi is unlucky not to have won a race over it's short career so far and should be thereabouts in Monday's race.
Shicka Sharka showed good form with a victory before going for a spell and should improve on whatever it does in Monday's race.
Elsewhere it is a strong eight event card on Monday with a number of local horses engaged, especially in the first race, the Trotters Handicap.
Locally owned and trained three-year-old Bad Boy Cullen returns to racing with a good barrier draw in race three, while fellow Gippsland horse, veteran Melton Little Max, is chasing another Warragul win for trainer Allan Preston in race six after scoring at the Warragul meeting last month.
Fifteen year old pacer Mister Douglas is competing in the last race.
First event on Monday is at 1:28pm with free admission to the course for patrons.

[Race For Fun]

Just wondering, stewards report from Globe Derby 10/01/15 there is an R. Sanders listed as a steward. Does S.A. have a steward by the same name or is this the R. Sanders from NSW? Not important just wondering?

http://www.harness.org.au/stewards-reports-detail.cfm?mc=GD100115

[Amlin]

Popular former Melbourne horseman Frank Hoban has died at age 90. Sons Shane and Gary followed their dad into the sport.


When I worked at HR Weekly over 10 years ago I interviewed Frank, a former boxer in his youth. At that stage he was the last trainer on the Gower Park track in Preston, and would jog his horse in the traffic down Murray Road every morning for pacework on the track. He always promised me a ride around the track (must have had a double jog cart) but I never did get there. There was a photo I saw some years ago of a horse parked at the traffic lights which was on the front of the Harness Racer - perhaps it was Frank driving.


One of the real characters of our sport who would have taken a lot of yarns with him. One of his best trotters was Bravado Vale (Kilmore Trotters Cup)

[Messenger]

Popular former Melbourne horseman Frank Hoban has died at age 90. Sons Shane and Gary followed their dad into the sport.


When I worked at HR Weekly over 10 years ago I interviewed Frank, a former boxer in his youth. At that stage he was the last trainer on the Gower Park track in Preston, and would jog his horse in the traffic down Murray Road every morning for pacework on the track. He always promised me a ride around the track (must have had a double jog cart) but I never did get there. There was a photo I saw some years ago of a horse parked at the traffic lights which was on the front of the Harness Racer - perhaps it was Frank driving.


One of the real characters of our sport who would have taken a lot of yarns with him. One of his best trotters was Bravado Vale (Kilmore Trotters Cup)

The boys just won the 2yo at Geelong to honour dad

[Richard prior]

Popular former Melbourne horseman Frank Hoban has died at age 90. Sons Shane and Gary followed their dad into the sport.


When I worked at HR Weekly over 10 years ago I interviewed Frank, a former boxer in his youth. At that stage he was the last trainer on the Gower Park track in Preston, and would jog his horse in the traffic down Murray Road every morning for pacework on the track. He always promised me a ride around the track (must have had a double jog cart) but I never did get there. There was a photo I saw some years ago of a horse parked at the traffic lights which was on the front of the Harness Racer - perhaps it was Frank driving.


One of the real characters of our sport who would have taken a lot of yarns with him. One of his best trotters was Bravado Vale (Kilmore Trotters Cup)

Great to see Dancingwithsierra get the chocolates for the Hoban's after losing their father Frank recently.

[brent_L]

It was a fantastic salute from driver Gary too......a peep to the heavens just before the post as well.

[arlington]

Condolences and congratulations to the Hobans. No doubt Frank's life will be celebrated with some entertaining memories.

[arlington]

Popular former Melbourne horseman Frank Hoban has died at age 90. Sons Shane and Gary followed their dad into the sport.


When I worked at HR Weekly over 10 years ago I interviewed Frank, a former boxer in his youth. At that stage he was the last trainer on the Gower Park track in Preston, and would jog his horse in the traffic down Murray Road every morning for pacework on the track. He always promised me a ride around the track (must have had a double jog cart) but I never did get there. There was a photo I saw some years ago of a horse parked at the traffic lights which was on the front of the Harness Racer - perhaps it was Frank driving.


One of the real characters of our sport who would have taken a lot of yarns with him. One of his best trotters was Bravado Vale (Kilmore Trotters Cup)


In keeping with celebrating the life of Frank Hoban.
Gower Park trials, of a Sunday morning, were a big part of my introduction to the sport. Way too young to have driven around the circuit 'laughs' but I can remember it having three corners rather than two bends, tighter than the Showgrounds. Many of the doyens of the sport including Gordon Rothacker, Phonse Hickey trialled there and young drivers like Ginger Gleeson developed their skills. I think Ging was a bit of a demon around Gower Park 'smiles'.
With the Northland Drive-in adjoining, the car parking for the horse floats and trucks along Gower St found it doubling as scabs alley for the more frugal young lad of a Friday night (obviously keeping their dosh for a dabble on the trots). And for those who doubt the intentions of a young lad, the hang on the car window speakers could be turned up over the fence :)

[Toohard]

In keeping with celebrating the life of Frank Hoban.
Gower Park trials, of a Sunday morning, were a big part of my introduction to the sport. Way too young to have driven around the circuit 'laughs' but I can remember it having three corners rather than two bends, tighter than the Showgrounds. Many of the doyens of the sport including Gordon Rothacker, Phonse Hickey trialled there and young drivers like Ginger Gleeson developed their skills. I think Ging was a bit of a demon around Gower Park 'smiles'.
With the Northland Drive-in adjoining, the car parking for the horse floats and trucks along Gower St found it doubling as scabs alley for the more frugal young lad of a Friday night (obviously keeping their dosh for a dabble on the trots). And for those who doubt the intentions of a young lad, the hang on the car window speakers could be turned up over the fence :)

Gower Park track looks like still there! Reckon used to be red scoria? Now called Blake Park by look of it. Drive In now a big shopping centre. Over to right where Bunnings is used to be Preston Hostel. Where I first ‘landed’ back in late 60’s as a young lad. Can remember waking up first morning seeing Drive In screen and think was a huge cricket sightscreen. Wasn’t there for long but can recall seeing horses going round one morning and wondering what was going on.

hahahah! Turning speakers up near fence worked at many Drive Ins!!

[Amlin]

I was there about 3 years ago and took some photos. The track still there along with some distance markers and track use regulation signs and the tie up area. Track is like a square with rounded edges. How they ran fields of eight around it amazes me!

On the above pic the tie up and wash area is on the corner near the word Park, beside what is now the Northland Homemaker Centre.

[brent_L]

Bad drives are a dime a dozen but I can't remember one as bad as R7 Mildura tonight for a while

[Maorisidol]

Bad drives are a dime a dozen but I can't remember one as bad as R7 Mildura tonight for a while

Silly thing is Brent the horse that went from 1/1 to try to get to the death is a Mildura local Trainer Driver.
With a Cramp horse leading (2nd Fav) and a Cramp horse in the death seat (4th Fav), and you are $28.70 whats the real chance of you gettin the death?
Zero.

[arlington]

Gower Park track looks like still there! Reckon used to be red scoria? Now called Blake Park by look of it. Drive In now a big shopping centre. Over to right where Bunnings is used to be Preston Hostel. Where I first ‘landed’ back in late 60’s as a young lad. Can remember waking up first morning seeing Drive In screen and think was a huge cricket sightscreen. Wasn’t there for long but can recall seeing horses going round one morning and wondering what was going on.

hahahah! Turning speakers up near fence worked at many Drive Ins!!

You dared to venture over the creek into Heidelberg West Paul?! The red scoria might have been on the athletic track built as part of the Olympic Village for the '56 Melbourne Games, upper right corner in the pic.

Kyle, did you pick a vantage point to call the trials? Not sure if they called them. Don't think the late maestro Bruce Skeggs OAM called but would have graced being a long term Heidelberg Councillor and MLA for Ivanhoe. Can't remember any mobile starts...imagine getting up to release speed let alone hitting the first bend! How about, for a bit of nostalgia, Hunter Cup stand qualifiers head to Gower Park :eek:

[Messenger]

I did more racing at the athletic track myself Wayne - your local knowledge makes me think we may have lived closed to each other at some point. As well as that I taught in West Heidelberg for 10yrs